I think I might know why the flight map shows an A340. I’m here because I was wondering what on earth Ew Discover is. Some 22 long-haul routes will operate, with 20 from Frankfurt and two from Munich. A tailor-made onboard product and dedicated service make every flight a special experience. So we had to redo the procedure, and I received the booking confirmation shortly after. So I called again and found out that they have also invoiced the seats (preferred ones, first rows in economy), surprise because as a lifetime senator these seats should be free. Evening-before check-in *. @ Ralph4878 -- Lol, am I the only one who doesn't have brussels sprouts issues? Waiting at each seat on boarding were a pillow and blanket, both of which were pretty decent. The way they did it was even kind of entertaining. Um mehr darüber zu erfahren, lesen Sie bitte unsere Datenschutzerklärung, die für die Verwendung Ihrer persönlichen Daten gilt, sowie unsere Datenschutzerklärung für Contacts, die für die Nutzung Ihrer persönlichen Daten durch den Eigentümer der Newsrooms gelten, denen Sie folgen. Klicken Sie auf JA, um zum Newsroom zu gelangen. Um mehr darüber zu erfahren, lesen Sie bitte unsere, , die für die Verwendung Ihrer persönlichen Daten gilt, sowie unsere. In many things in life mediocre and poor products are cheaper. Honestly sounds a lot like Lufthansa, slow meal service included. The catering looked nice and even better than Lufthansa, especially the hot breakfast option now. I didn't receive a booking confirmation (as usual), so after 10 days I called LH senator service and they found out that although I still had my booking number the whole booking had disappeared. It was a shockingly gorgeous spring morning in Germany, with sunny skies and warm temperatures. Despite this high diligence, it is possible that some information may have changed. Eurowings Discover partners with Lufthansa Miles & More, and on top of that with Air Canada Aeroplan. Please note that our Terms of Use apply to all use of our services. Thanks for an interesting review and I honestly have no interest stepping onboard Eurowings Discover anytime soon. Juni 2021 verkündete die Lufthansa Group, die Betriebsgenehmigung (AOC) für „Eurowings Discover" erhalten zu haben und am 24. I ordered the South African sauvignon blanc plus a sparkling water. Not aggressively bad, but definitely not better than anything you'd get on the US3 - especially considering their intra-Europe biz product. The Eurowings Discover check-in experience in Tampa was rather chaotic. Am 17. There were three starter choices. For me, the problems with operational reliability would rule out Eurowings already. The last time I flew long haul out of the airport was on Condor when I was a kid, back when there was still a smoking section on the plane. And we all know it will be many years before it's available on a widespread basis. Operating out of Frankfurt and Munich this carrier takes travelers to the world's most beautiful short, medium and long-haul destinations. The seat controls were on the center console, and were easy to use (though they’re also easy to hit accidentally, since this is the area where you may naturally rest your arm or hand). Prices haven't really dropped compared to when Lufthansa operated the route. Ford went with the vegetarian starter, which was caramelized goat cheese on fennel-orange salad with cranberries. @ Kevin B -- I appreciate the feedback and certainly don't want to come across that way. The two flight attendants working business class kept swapping dishes between aisles, because one cart would have something, while the other wouldn’t. So I eventually decided to just get up, and got some (offline) work done on my laptop. @ echino -- I am, but since I didn't get started when I was young, I feel like there's no point in starting now. Condor with its new A330s will feature better food and service and I will stick with DE for the near future. This reminds me to buy them next time I go grocery shopping. Discover has much more in common with Condor, the leisure carrier previously owned by Lufthansa. In the month leading up to my flight, 27% of the flights on the route were canceled. If you click NO you will come back to Mynewsdesk.com. The Lufthansa group is a joke though, especially with their supposedly 'five star rating', based on the vaporware that is their new 777X business seat. I don't know if it's the route or the season. I asked the agent to add our Known Traveler Numbers (KTN) to our reservations, since I wasn’t able to do so online during the process (this would get us TSA PreCheck). The paintwork is almost exactly that of Eurowings, supplemented by the word Discover in light blue. Sounds like it might be better to fly this airline to the US than to Germany. Share them in the comments. Klicken Sie auf NEIN, um zurück zu Mynewsdesk.com zu gelangen. I guess a safety video wasn’t in Eurowings Discover’s budget, given that it launched during the pandemic. Thank you for that review. @ tipsyinmadras -- To be clear, the lack of consistent branding didn't in any way bother me, I was just pointing it out because I found it interesting (same as the four engine plane on the map). How much cheaper was this ticket vs one on LH? About an hour later the cabin started to get bright, and at that point I really struggled to sleep. Eurowings Discover ist eine 100-prozentige Tochter der Deutschen Lufthansa AG. Huh? , which applies to the use of your personal data by the owner of the newsroom you follow. , die für die Nutzung Ihrer persönlichen Daten durch den Eigentümer der Newsrooms gelten, denen Sie folgen. Not only is the screen as such quite low quality, but the selection was also limited. I was informed they weren’t able to do so, even though Eurowings Discover is a TSA PreCheck participating airline. Eurowings Discover ist die neue Ferienfluggesellschaft der Lufthansa Group, die Reisende von Frankfurt am Main und München zu den schönsten Nah- und Fernreisezielen der Welt fliegt. Lufthansa has a high cost base and requires sufficiently high fares to offset it. Or contact us via our contact form (“Eurowings Discover”). If Eurowings Discover could get these issues fixed, it might be fairly decent. Unfortunately Eurowings Discover isn’t a full Star Alliance member, meaning that most Star Alliance points currencies can’t be redeemed for travel on the airline. Initially, operations are to start with a couple of Airbus A330’s from Frankfurt ( the exact number isn’t clear but expected to be three or four aircraft) – the targeted start date is June 2021 when the agreement between Lufthansa and Condor come to an end. 42 were here. They must have cut that cost. In the case of Eurowings Discover, do you really want me to rate a product highly when the airline is charging the same prices as Lufthansa mainline while delivering a lot less? Pre-Covid I was able to snag steerage tickets for under 400 rt. *sigh*. It's sad to see how LH has lost its way. But, 4Y is used by Airbus when they transport planes around. Main course much less so. Multiple carriers have operated it over the years, including Condor (2014-2019) and Air Namibia (until 2020). I wonder? I had the same issue on JAL 2 years ago w/ all lights turned on for bfast 2+ hours from landing. It's not that their prices are cheaper than other airlines so i'd only fly them if i had no other options. Now I'll steam them with oyster sauce. They peromised to fix it. If you wish to claim a refund for a cancelled flight, please fill . Without being able to use TSA PreCheck, we were stuck in quite a long line at security. . Then the crew came through the cabin to extend each passenger’s tray table and place a tablecloth on it, and then… nothing happened for 45 minutes. Our 10:15 pm from Toronto years ago finished meal service at 1 am. There was also a bottle of water in the storage compartment at each seat. Eurowings Discover is the new leisure airline of the Lufthansa Group. While Eurowings Discover didn’t offer lounge access, we lucked out in that there’s a Priority Pass restaurant in the terminal, which is Cafe by Mise en Place. But between the Eurowings Discover flight from the previous day being canceled, plus Edelweiss allegedly having an aircraft swap, the check-in agents were dealing with lots of angry passengers. Airlines like Air France, KLM, and even British Airways, are improving considerably. I’ve noticed in pictures that the bulkhead screens are flush mounted next to each other and look much different than the screens in the other rows. Presumably the J pax are German holidaymakers finishing up a week of golf or suntanning. But for Long-haul routes, the carrier wanted to spin off the low-cost Long-haul market into its own brand; opting for the name ‘Ocean’. . In summer 2022, Eurowings Discover will serve 44 destinations from Frankfurt and 25 from Munich, Cirium data shows. Anchorage (ANC) is expected to see 3x a week service; Las Vegas (LAS) will see 4x a week service; Mauritius (MRU) will see 2x a week service; Mombasa (MBA) will see 2x a week service; Punta Cana (PUJ) will see 4x a week service. We are happy to help you in writing. With boarding passes in hand, we headed to Concourse F, which is a familiar concourse for me (given that it’s where American departs from). Eurowings Discover ist die Airline der Lufthansa Group für alle, die hungrig nach Sonne, Strand und tollen Urlaubserlebnissen sind. As others have said, business class on LH Group airlines is low value at high price. That they even have a full lay-flat J cabin is likely out of convenience - otherwise I’d expect a more prem econ-like setup a la Air Caraïbes / French Bee. But I hear you, and will consider your feedback going forward. We were also informed that Eurowings Discover didn’t offer lounge access in Tampa — not exactly a premium experience (admittedly the only lounge in the terminal Eurowings Discover departs from is the American Admirals Club, so I can’t blame the airline for that too much). Business class is all about being able to arrive well rested, and the speed of service on an overnight flight, plus the environment, is a big part of that. It'll be the first time the route has had regular service, with three weekly flights beginning May 23rd. BA moved to the AA lounge and The International Club closed. This isn’t a low cost carrier offering value for customers, but rather it’s obviously just trying to offer more value to shareholders, in the form of reduced operating costs. In March 2019, the Lufthansa Group announced that starting in October 2019, Eurowings would introduce long-haul flights from Frankfurt Airport and further its Munich hub to expand Lufthansa’s tourist-oriented presence. Damit profitiert Eurowings Discover auch in Zukunft von der systemseitigen Integration und der engen Partnerschaft mit Lufthansa. Eurowings Discover’s entertainment system is similar to Lufthansa’s, and that’s not good. Stay aware: Sign up for my weekly new routes newsletter. Seat looks nice, cabin and plane looked nice and clean, food and drinks look nice.... what's the problem? No wonder LH wants to stop letting DE to use its domestic connection flights. So I agree with you that there could be a market for Lufthansa having a Norwegian-style airline, especially with the kinds of leisure travelers taking this flight, but it needs to be priced accordingly. Please check out, Review: Burj Al Arab Dubai (What An Experience!). James, I have never been bothered by FAs on flights to Europe due to not wearing a mask (basically I take it off after take off and do not put it back on till landing). Hi Ben, Unfortunately the airline lacks operational reliability, experienced crews, and Wi-Fi, which can greatly impact the experience. Buchungen erfolgen über eine nahtlose Weiterleitung zur Buchungsstrecke der Lufthansa auf lufthansa.com. Those are the same operational its predecessor Eurowings long haul had. Die Flüge sind auf eurowings-discover.com und lufthansa.com buchbar. Travelers benefit from an end-to-end booking process and seamless transfers at the Frankfurt and Munich hubs as well as at many destinations of the Lufthansa Group and its partner airlines worldwide. I think you're looking at this airline from the wrong perspective. Warm towels were distributed around 45 minutes after takeoff. While the crews were enthusiastic and extremely friendly, there were so many basic service mishaps, which I can only attribute to a lack of training. Nun konsolidiert die Frankfurter Airline alle Informationen rund um ihr Produkt- und Serviceangebot auf einer eigenen Website und unterstreicht mit einem frischen und modernen Auftritt ihr Ferienprofil. Thank you for being honest — I was looking at this route/carrier for a summer trip. German holidaymakers are used to a lot worse than EWD is offering, since Condor and Tuifly offer vastly inferior long-haul products on leisure routes plus lack the ability to earn or use miles&more miles for those so inclined (although Condor does sometimes allow this). Your experience is much in line with I have experienced with them on 3 trips to Namibia. I fell asleep almost immediately, but was then woken up an hour later by the flight attendant, as I had apparently completely taken my mask off in my sleep. So I just watched the moving map for much of the flight. Having launched in July 2021, Eurowings Discover is expanding fast. Eurowings Discover Zurück Eurowings Discover Terminal Terminal 1, Halle C Telefon +49 30 915 88 620 Webseite https://www.eurowings.com/de E-Mail discover.info@lufthansa-group.com Abfertigungsagent Lufthansa Vorabend Check-in * 17:00 - 20:00 Uhr, Terminal 1, Halle C, Schalter 712-713 They don't need to arrive rested and refreshed to make an important business meeting on arrival. All passengers must appear personally. It was another 30 minutes until the starter was served. A lot of bloggers like to talk about the Halo Effect surrounding EK, but why do they leave out LH? Yet, I feel like I can't escape this notion from bloggers that somehow LH is this magical flying beast that's just so great. It feels like LH continues to fail up. Later that day, I received the booking confirmation, but my seats weren't still there. Good to know it is not only me. @ DCA Will Always Be "National" -- That's a fair point. But I am sure that those Aeroplan can be better spent elsewhere. The seat guru shows this class as premium economy. I’m surprised you actually had a terminal arrival. Durch ein maßgeschneidertes Bordprodukt mit zahlreichen Extras und dem persönlichen Service, wird jeder Flug zu einem besonderen Erlebnis. The tray table also folded out from the center armrest, and could be folded over in half. Our flight was changed from Lufthansa airlines to this. Die Informationen auf dieser Seite sind an Journalisten, Presse und Medien gerichtet. Euro Disco was supposed to have less of these as it was streamlined more into the main LH brand as with Edelwise and LX. Pre-departure beverages were a bit more complicated. It is important to note that Eurowings and Eurowings Discover will be operated as two separate brands. Handling agent. We fly Eurowings from SLC to Frankfurt in about a month - looking forward to a great flight and restful experience . Eurowings Discover is a wholly owned subsidiary of Deutsche Lufthansa AG, headquartered in Frankfurt. My previous flights into Frankfurt from Tampa (Lufthansa), Philadelphia, Washington all has runway exits and then a bus. This is why I stopped reading TPG and I hope to not stop reading OMAAT. It came about because Lufthansa itself does not have the right platform – in terms of costs and product – to target tourists properly. But surprise, they were 300 Euro higher than originally agreed. Let’s get right into the review…. TPA was my home airport to as a kid and I loved seeing the BA 777 at the gate whenever you would drive into the airport. The launch is supposedly ruffling feathers both internally and externally. Lufthansa Group's Eurowings Discover (4Y58 / LH4390) departs Frankfurt at 11:15am and arrives in Salt Lake City at 2:10pm. Re the branding & service: Eurowing Discover (not related to Eurowings, which is also part of the LH group and flies the "non-premium" routes in Europe) is a low-cost way for LH Group to gobble up market share and profit on leisure routes, hence the not so well trained staff, the mixed branding, and the ageing fleet. Evening flight... To me, none of this sounds too bad. We headed to the Lufthansa Senator Lounge, prior to our Lufthansa Airbus A321 business class flight to Venice. Flight from as close to West coast to europe as i can get (i hate flying to east coast for a europe flight); 2. At the same time, the total cost have been deduced from our bank account. November 2022 09:25 Neue Website: Eurowings Discover zieht in eigenes digitales Zuhause I thought their drinks were pretty good (I really like their non-alcoholic passion fruit punch at boarding), as well as the appetizers. @ Nate nate -- I don't track registration codes as closely as others, but for whatever reason the code sounded familiar when I saw it. Then there was the choice of rolls or croissants, with jam, Nutella, etc. David. For those not familiar, Eurowings Discover is Lufthansa’s new long haul leisure airline, so I was curious to check it out. Fortunately the business class line was short, and we were quickly checked in. Flight from as close to West coast to europe as i can get (i hate flying to east coast for a europe flight); 2. Lie-flat seats. Frankly, your taste has always been different than mine but I didn’t note a tone in this post. Too bad we have very limited choice here. Die Menschen fliegen mit uns in die beste Zeit des Jahres, das sollte sich in der gesamten Reisekette widerspiegeln. Route Development Analyst - James lives and breathes route development. I wouldn’t exactly say that’s great, but I guess it’s not terrible if a leisure airline has the same business class as a global full service airline. But the flight hits most of the things I prioritize: 1. Can I expect to collect my miles as a member of United MileagePlus?? There was a small fully enclosed storage compartment near the ottoman, though it’s not really big enough to be practical. I also want to mention that not all Eurowings Discover jets feature this business class product. Durch ein maßgeschneidertes Bordprodukt und den persönlichen Service wird jeder Flug zu einem besonderen Erlebnis. By 8:30PM we were cleared for takeoff on runway 1L. . It's not that their prices are cheaper than other airlines so i'd only fly them if i had no other options. Ugh, why not? The ottomans for the seats are simply to the side of the seats in front, in order to save space. On the plus side, it’s nice that a leisure airline has the same business class as a full service airline. I appreciate the review. Eurowings Discover ist die neue Ferienfluggesellschaft der Lufthansa Group, die Reisende von Frankfurt am Main und München zu den schönsten Nah- und Fernreisezielen der Welt fliegt. For some reasons, LH has downgraded its catering on its transatlantic business class with a combined starter/entree course, and a reduced pre-arrival meal offering. Durch ein maßgeschneidertes Bordprodukt mit zahlreichen Extras und dem persönlichen Service, wird jeder Flug zu einem besonderen Erlebnis. An Airbus A330 -200 flew from Frankfurt via a short stopover in Mombasa on Kenya 's Indian Ocean coast to Zanzibar in Tanzania. They were operated but Brussels, but with a Eurowings livery. Internally, the Swiss holiday airline Edelweiss will reduce its long-haul fleet by two A330-300s – and possibly hand the aircraft over to Eurowings Discover. Then again,... And you're right, it's nice that Eurowings Discover at least has a "real" business class, and not just premium economy. It is a race to the bottom. This would have sent the group in the same direction as IAG’s LEVELS brand, but seeing how that airline is struggling by external factors, it was likely decided to keep the name familiar adding extra visibility to the livery. As we disembarked, we had great views of our plane as well. I appreciate the review. We booked and are flying out of Air Canada and the return was supposed to be Lufthansa. Bernd Bauer, Wolfgang Raebiger, Helmut Wölfel, Commercial register Frankfurt/Main, HRB 119629. On this flight dinner was served after takeoff and breakfast before landing, and you can find the menu below. Kenyan charter operator Seven Four Eight Air Services and Hi Sky Europe share ‘4H’; and Canadian regional airline Pascan Aviation and the Spanish charter airline Privilege Style share ‘P6’. But they also had no clue what they were doing. Somehow there was no water in the lavatories for the last three hours of the flight, so if anyone wanted to wash their hands, they had to use bottled water. It is crazy you made it through covid and kept your normal attitude and now that travel is becoming easier you have had this negative to e shift. I just booked FRA-CUN and CUN-MUC on LH in Premium Economy. The long link from Frankfurt to Salt Lake City, some 5,128 miles (8,367km) away, stands out. Honestly I feel like your tone in recent articles (this, senators lounge, United from Kona) have really felt exceedingly entitled and is unlike your previous tones and coming off exceedingly entitled (very the points guy, whom I've stopped reading).

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