Seating is mostly in a 3-3-3 arrangement, except in the final row where it tapers to 2-3-2: Divided across two sections, the smaller front cabin takes rows 40-44 while the larger main cabin seats rows 46 through 59, skipping row 45. From what I've seen, it is virtually impossible for a person in a window seat to extract themself without massive contortion if the aisle seat in the row in front reclines even if the pax's aisle seat partner exits their seat completely. Each seat has a 13.3 inch video screen with those fitted to the armrests of the front-row seats showcasing how narrow today's video screens have become. I cant quite get my head around the space (mis)calculation here given the 17 hour routes they are planning combined with what will be certainly a $ premium over established W competitors such as SQ and CX with their more comfortable seats and aircraft. Business class takes pride of place at the front of Qantas' Boeing 787s with 42 seats spread across two distinct zones, offering every traveller a fully-flat bed and direct access to the aisle. Key facts: Qantas 787 Economy seats. Here are the best watches of the year: should you care? Any indication that QF are aware of the situation? On the 787-9, there are only 166 economy seats in a 3-3-3 configuration. This article is more proof how the QF 'Dreamliner' could be more correctly be called the 'Nightmareliner' (for all but the small number in business class.). If you have not received the activation email, simply enter your email address below, then click 'Submit'. Accordingly, Qantas 787 Business Class and Premium Economy are two high flying dreams come true. Is it unusual that they have started selling these seats despite not revealing what they look like/what you'll actually get for your money? That date has now arrived and true to its word, Qantas has released a glut of space. Signing up with Executive Traveller only takes a second and lets you Well send you an email to re-activate your account and enter a new password. Selecting the best seats in Premium Economy on the Qantas B787 9 Dreamliner, with Tom Otley, Editor of Business Traveller . parties. Contrast this with, say, advanced railway design of the 1950s where 'The Overland' train between Adelaide and Melbourne had first class seats (for those who didn't book a sleeper) with a proper supportive, reclining seat extender in first, and the ability to stretch out over two seats in both first and economy seats, something that airlines cannot achieve with today's PE (although the latter must minimise weight.) With a 1-2-1 seat configuration, every passenger has direct aisle access. Is that storage area below the screen metal? Login now. Please keep it real. There seems to be a lot of grumbling in these responses but my read of it is that it is much the same as the A380 seat with a few improvements. And premium I just can't get as comfortable as economy which is ironic.". It's completely free and we'll never pass your information on to "When even scoot could factory fit WiFi to their budget 787 aircraft..". Not me as the design trade offs are obvious and 38inches seat pitch was not revealed by QF only yesterday.the deep recline capability was kinda news though. " The original concept was developed by Thompson Aero Seating the same firm behind the Boeing 787sbusiness class seat and brought into the real world by David Caon. Very thorough and impartial article - great to see. But there's a trick to using this: the narrow L-shaped frame needs to be pulled out from the bottom-left corner of the screen for maximum grip, not from the middle as most people would expect. . Hi Guest, join in the discussion on Review: Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner premium economy seat, Executive Traveller is published by Business Travel Media Pty Ltd, a corporate authorised credit representative (#515763) of MGS FINANCIAL PTY LIMITED (#337568). Question.can I book two economy seats for myself!?? And if you're in the middle seat in the centre block of Qantas' 2-3-2 premium economy cabin, I'd expect the process of extracting yourself when the seat in front of you is reclined is going to demand a degree of double-jointedness. But I have yet to see a PE seat that retains the sense of space and comfort. FLX sorry Im not contradicting myself, further reductions in recline I was referring from the article when the seat in FRONT is RECLINED the seat behind space is further reduced due to the design, look at the pics and review above, its clear cut. Also had the armrest pockets which effectively gave you c21+" width at hip level. Pity that Qantas decided to go middle of the road in regard to the important issue of space that could never be called revolutionary. It's a seat design tradeoff and recent history plus negative comments here hv already shown U can't win positive pax response either way and it's just keep going around in costly seat design & development circles if airlines do continue to act according to consumer feedbacks such as the comment section here. 17 hours on the London route via Perth with QF? You can of course tuck your smartphone into the cubbyhole below the video screen and top up its batteries by using that 'upstairs' USB port it'll just take longer to recharge, but on a long international flight that's ample time to fill up the tank. When we published yesterday it hadn't been uploaded yet. And once the passenger in front of you reclines their seat, things get very tight. C'mon Qantas, you're a ULH carrier, get it right! The Premium Economy seating on the Qantas 787 is a huge step down from their retiring 747 fleet. Excellent article: very considered, and terrific photos. David, there seems to be inconsistency in the website in that sometimes I can see comments on my browser (i.e. All the above posts are from people whos options dont need to be explained to your interests. I value legroom more than seat width so I'd rather just stick to Y and pay for an exit row seat - it would be a lot cheaper as well! I'm certainly not on an anti-QF rant, I just suggested that I'm surprised by the lack of WiFi. Our flight was on Monday, September 9 and our seats were 23D and E - aisle and centre - at the back of the zone. Oooo that seat pitch looks like economy of a few decades ago. You can then compare the A380 and 747-400 by . It's a very relaxing position to be in, but that comfort comes at a cost of reducing the knee-room at the very front of your seat. Premium Economy: Seat Recline. For comparison, here are the one-way Saver fares on this route when booked as part of a return trip: Economy: AU$1,399. Premium Economy: AU$3,056. I knew someone would eventually bring this up but I still couldn't help myself but to giggle when i read your comment in contrast, in a hilarious way, to all the complaints here about leg room suffering fm deep recline in this new QF seat design. Do you have a pic of both seat in front and pax seat side one? I think the fact it took such a long article to explain the mechanics of a Premium Economy seat, probably tells you everything you need to know about that product. Looks very underwhelming and quite tight. First row seats have a footrest attached to the seat while the . Already have an Executive Traveller account? Both Singapore and Virgin would appear to still have better seats Not an unexpected outcome from when this was first shown, a real shame as bringing this inline with VA and AirNZ at 41'' would I expect have made a great seat. . Qantas could fix the PE legroom issue by removing one row of Y from the forward cabin and the distribute the 32inches across PE and the remaining rows of Y. Usually, these seats immediately face a fixed wall, dividing the seats from something else in the cabin. However, the truth is that the entire plane is pretty epic, and among the most advanced of its kind. Seat width: 17 inches. economy for some extra space. Qantas has premium economy sections on its Airbus A380 and Boeing 787 aircraft that offer a slightly wider seat and more legroom than standard economy. Log in below. Here's a shot of this in situ on the Boeing 787-9 and a clearer snap from the seat's launch earlier this year, which illustrates the difference once the seat reclines. I think its time for a new CEO and direction. Would this still be the preferable row in your opinion over the other 3 rows behind and no one reclining into you? 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On bigger aircraft, there can be even more . Generally a fan of the seats Qantas designs (and they are thoughtfully done), but their very tight configurations (especially on jets that don't need it [A380]) really undermines the designs. For maximum legroom and space row 20: Located at the front of the cabin, these seats prove the roomiest thanks to the generous gap between them and the bulkhead wall in front. Like the A380, there is seatback in-flight entertainment but no wifi. I'll keep an open mind and give it a go sometime. 20. . below, then click 'Submit'. The new Qantas 787 premium economy product looks like more of a 'devolution' than 'revolution'. Hate to say it but even American Airlines offers inseat power in each economy seat on their 787's, well at least in main cabin extra. Sadly, a few issues not all of them related to the seat itself keep it from reaching its full crowd-pleasing potential. Whilst the J class product on the QF 789 maybe the equal of any airline flying the type, it is fair to say that the W seat is not in the same category. "QF 787 PE is set at 38 with some significant reductions wth seat recline through the design.". Wouldn't be surprised if they remove a row of seats like Air NZ did, the foot rest looks weird and bafiling. In fact, I hv never bought a single QF ticket despite flying @ least 12 flight sectors per yr across multiple airlines for the past 2decades. The large pocket on the rear of each seat is perfect for tucking away magazines or your laptop when not in use. removing lavs, mediocre food, using "enhancement" "revolutionary" "game breaking" ad nauseum making fools of us. Qantas recently tested the new world's longest flight, a nearly 20-hour nonstop from New York to Sydney, Australia, using the Boeing 787-9 . Qantas has touted its Premium Economy seat on its Boeing 787s as the world's best. Sorry QF, it's a big thumbs down! This premium economy seat and Qantas' premium economy passengers on the Boeing 787-9 deserve better. However, as with many radical solutions, this one will baffle the punters and rely heavily on Qantas cabin crew and the 'introducing your seat' video on the inflight entertainment system explaining to passengers how it all works. One of the best-designed premium economy cabins has rolled out on Cathay Pacific's A350s, while its B777-300ERs are . Then it's a matter of finding the preferred position for your calf-rest some passengers will like it up high towards their knees, others further down the leg. The Premium Economy seating on the Qantas 787 is a huge step down from their retiring 747 fleet. Always easy to declare a product as inferior when focusing only on its negative aspects and another product as superior when focusing only on its positive aspects. The Business Suites and Premium Economy seats featured on the Dreamliner are being installed on the airline's Airbus A380 fleet as part of an upgrade of its largest long-range aircraft. VA 777 for example PE is set at 41, booking wise more bang for buck there. Zaps I do it all the time (to DFW) and it is fine; better than economy which is the point. Still will be better than down back. Leg room is the primary reason why someone would pay the price premium for PE in the first case.". Review: Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner premium economy seat. THE SEAT. To push the point further if your flying an extra (3-4hrs) for a 17hr leg wouldnt that flying demand a bar type area to stretch out, and take a break from the seat. This is a terrible oversight when you think about about laptop-toting travellers flying as long as 17 hours between Perth and London. to be comfortable, especially for the premium prices QF charge. For couples and duos the A+B and J+K pairs: When travelling with a partner or friend, there's no reason to have a seatmate in the centre group when you can instead sit together by the windows! I was able to try the premium economy seat yesterday. Airbus A380-800 - VH-OQB - "Hudson Fysh". This pitch is an inch longer than that of its competitors, though the seat is narrower by 0.3 inches and a 6-inch recline makes for a comfortable flight as well. David Slotnick/Business Insider. Nov 10, 2019, 6:03 AM. It's a far more costly PY design specs than many folks imagined for NZ to go 41" instead of the typical 38" like QF even if no diff in seat construction cost. I am a big fan of Qantas and was very much looking forward to the new PE. The first reconfigured aircraft entered service on 20 June 2012. Further . Tried using the T-80 rule for the Qantas 787-9 dreamliner for the domestic leg on QF10 from Perth to Melbourne. Already have an Executive Traveller account? The initial part of my trip, London to Sydney via Bangkok will be available to read at a later date. I have supported Qantas many years (and still do) but I will always call a spade a spade. Such a shame compared with the promise outlined to me by a friend who was an interior design engineer in the B787 project at Everett, as we checked out the fuselage mockup in 2007 during a visit there.The economics of market competition plus high barriers to exit might mean that eventually they too will succumb unfortunately, rather than try a modest price increase.So sad that the Dreamliner tag still applies but the concept which the term encapsulated when it was coined by Boeing in the early days has gone down the gurgler. 19. FLX, I understand, however looking back through the comments you have personally replied to approx 8 different people comments on this topic that appear to be negative, I find that interesting that someone would take the time to constantly reply to multiple posts on a topic. Seat: Premium Economy 35B. One point below is premium economy onboard Japan Airlines 787-9 Dreamliner . Scoot simply taps into this same agreement and the same service. So from what I see the problem is that the "shell" around the back of the seat takes up too much room when the seat reclines? Seat pitch: 32 inches. I'd suggest the reason that satellite tech isn't factory-fitted is that with the rollout of international inflight Internet still a few years away, the tech itself can and will change. Laptop Power Ports. :), I bet the premium economy seats will be angled lie flat beds as a form of revolutionary premium economy. Otherwise how would you know! Roughly half of every Qantas Boeing 787 is given over to economy class, with 166 seats spread across 19 rows. His solution is this 're-imagined' legrest which works in tandem with the reclined seat with the aim of cradling your body from head to toe. I'd be inclined to agree. The trade-off is an extra 2.45 centimetres of leg room compared to Qantas . Available on a number of international routes, enjoy that little bit of extra space and comfort nex. 7. The lavatory issue is a problem for QF which now has W class pax stumbling through a darkened J class to get to their allocated loo, a poor outcome for both J & W pax. Access to all AVOD system content thru a built-in screen @ every seat onboard 787 free of charge is soooo obviously not an excuse for the lack of inflight wifi by QF.. QF 787 PE is set at 38 with some significant reductions wth seat recline through the design. Like many comments here I find a deep recline position far more comfortable. When the premium economy seat tilts back into a generous 9.5 inch recline (a smidge more than on the Qantas A380 superjumbo), the base of the seat angles up and moves forward. 787-9, 777-200, 777-300ER: . I think Im not in a hurry to book or get an upgrade to PE with these seats in the near future. QF bashing again. I'd also love to know where you heard about Scoot and Singapore Airlines sharing bandwidth from cause I've never heard of such thing before. On nearly every aircraft, there are seats in the forward-most part of the plane, facing the wall at the entry door and forward galley. Austrian's B777-200 aircraft hold a total of 24 premium economy seats configured 2-4-2, while B767-300ERs contain 30 seats (expanded from 18) configured 2-2-2. Photo: Courtesy of Emirates. Here are the best watches of the year: should you care? Just below the screen is a pocket for stowing your smartphone, reading glasses or other small bits of personal kit. Only can see rows 40 and beyond with seat selection. No way will I risk that ever again..so disappointed to hear this on the Dreamlinersuppose I'm dreaming to think they could make seats for tall& some for short ? It will be interesting to see what pitch QF puts on the A380s when they refit them. Choose the seat that suits you . Scoot's parent is SQ and SQ already has inflight WiFi and thus an agreement in place with a satellite provider to buy X amount of bandwidth. Maximum 22.1inch width available per section. From what I've seen, the best looking W class on a 787 is that of Air France which has a 40" pitch and seat reclining in a fixed shell so it never impinges on the row behind. Login now. Awards Your Dreamliner B787 and A380 Premium Economy seat is designed specifically for ultra-long haul flying and focuses on customised features to ensure maximum comfort. First of all, the 'hammock' can be deployed only when your seat is upright not reclined. It certainly looks tight in there! Qantas says its next-generation premium economy seat will retain a 'cradle' design to help passengers relax and sleep on those 18-20+ hour Project Sunrise flights to London, New York, Paris and potentially Chicago and Miami.. They'll also have more legroom than the current Boeing 787 and Airbus A380 premium economy pews, with an extra two inches of pitch - 40" as opposed to 38 . The A350 seat is narrower than the A380 seat though. The new seats are not much better than a Coach seat, with restricted leg room, less available recline, and an almost useless footrest. It takes at least an entire day and wreaks havoc on . "The Air NZ space seats replacement41''. Sincerely hope the A380 refit doesn't go the same way. 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Really interesting how another review l recently read, gave PE a glowing report - however that reviewer travelled as a guest of QF. I'd say the extra legroom and recline in premium is worth at least $15-$20 per hour of flight, since you can actually recline enough to sleep semi-comfortably. In economy class: Exit rows, aisle or window seats, and anywhere close to the front are typically considered the best seats on board. I find there are two big variables in sleeping on aircraft in premium cabins one is, as you've noted, legrest or not; the other in business class is lie-flat or recline, sometimes I much prefer a deep recline with the legrest up to make the seat like a comfy lounge chair, rather than a fully-flat bed. Nestled between business class and economy, the Qantas Boeing 787 boasts a cosy premium economy zone of just 28 travellers seated across four rows (numbered 20 through 23): The cabin comes in a 2-3-2 layout, with the paired window seats listed as A/B and J/K and the centre trio as D/E/F. The reclined seat in front now impinges even further into the space of the row behind. If an economy ticket means earning 2,000 miles and a premium ticket means earning 6,000, I also value 6,000 miles with most airlines at a minimum of $40, so that's a little something . Wow what a nightmare, and that's 'Premium' Economy (at a premium price). W class (premium economy) on any airline is a waste of money. 30" pitch is horrific. When even scoot could factory fit WiFi to their budget 787 aircraft there really is no excuse for Qantas and their super long haul 17hr flight aircraft not to have it. From an AUSBT comment on Facebook: I actually think it's a *very* good seat, it's just let down by lack of legroom the assigned pitch would have been fine for a conventional A380-style premium economy seat, but this seat simply needs more pitch. Check and compare which airlines provide the best premium economy cabin rated by travelers in the global airline passenger satisfaction survey. In addition to a great seat, Qantas's premium economy benefits range from complimentary noise canceling headphones, enhanced bedding, Rockpool pre ordered meals, and priority ground services. Whilst NZ did make the right decision by removing the row of its ironically named Spaceseat, it blew up its economics and doomed it to the scrapheap. Along with 38 . Seat pitch and width: 38"- 42" and 19.5 . And while most travellers will be sufficiently familiar with a seatback footrest to try and swing the calf-rest down with their feet, that struggle will get you nowhere you need to start by pulling out and holding the 'Footrest' lever under the video screen. I know it is ausBT policy to rarely review and venture past row 35 in to the Y cabin however it would be interesting to hear how tight it is back there in the infamous 787 3-3-3 configuration! We first raised this in our detailed preview of the seats published in February 2017, and last week's launch of the Qantas Boeing 787-9 and its subsequent delivery flight from Seattle to Sydney during which we spent some hours sleeping in the premium economy seat brings this into sharper focus. Not only AF and NZ hv the same seat design issue when they try to protect leg room/personal space thru a fixed seat back design, CX had a huge pax backlash when they tried similar design fleetwide 4~5yrs ago for the same goal and then had to abandon it quickly for longhaul(U can still see it in CX regional). Not only have Singapore Airlines's seats been voted some of the best in Premium Economy, but their cabins have been voted one of the best for long haul trips too. Any ideas? Absolutely best in class at the time. "look at the pics and review above, its clear cut.". Perhaps I didn't have it adjusted 'just right' (and if I can't, how is the average passenger going to handle it? May be SQ is considered an Australian airline.. With mathematical/physical certainty, I think it's clear which of the following yields a wider seat or aisle width in PY: Distribute 8seats +2aisles across a cabin diameter of 221inches. Spot on. Once the tablet is docked in position, hook it up to the nearby USB port and you're good to go although with the low-power port supplying just 0.5A it will keep your tablet's battery stable than recharging it. Capital One Venture X Rewards Credit Card. The business class seat is based off of Thompson Aero's . For families it varies: Couples travelling with lap infants will appreciate those baby bassinet facilities available at row 20A/B and 20J/K, as the bassinet frees your hands during the flight. Its For everybody else, there's no reason to choose yourself a centre ('E') seat when every other seat in the cabin is by a window or aisle. Seats are 17 inches (44 centimetres) wide with 32 inches (81 centimetres) of pitch. All economy seats on Qantas 737-800 are a disgrace. I was prepared to change my stripes for my quarterly trips to NYC based on this product but I'll stay with VA/DL thanks. 4. What a fantastic and detailed review David. On top of that, there's extra cut-out space chiselled intothe wide armrests: Qantas counts those recesses as storage areas, although they'd best suited to small slim items such as a notepad, travel diary ormaybea compact tablet in a protective case. I'm not desperately citing anything except my personal experience, I'm not telling anyone they should or would experience the same as I do. Qantas. Im flying that on the inaugural QF9 mar24 and certainly confirms my initial thoughts of the publicity shots that it is tighter for legroom than I would expect. Yes, happily this is not a bottomless pit. In one search for flights from LAX to London, an economy ticket cost $2,288 for a refundable fare or 30,000 miles for a valuation of 7.6 cents per mile. Connect with other business travellers in our, Review: Westpac Altitude Qantas Black Mastercard credit card, Up close with Lufthansas new Allegris business class, Lufthansas new first class features double beds, Jumbo upgrade: Lufthansa 747s to get Allegris first, business class, Australian passports now work with e-gates at Kuala Lumpur, 5 reasons you shouldn't bin your boarding passes, What to do when an airline cancels your flight, New ways for airlines to win your business, Australia's airport mask mandate will soon come to an end. Correct me if I'm wrong. This goes beyond a small section of netting at the bottom of the seat. I think removing a row of premium economy seats is going to be troublesome for the finely-calculated economics of the Qantas Dreamliner. Boeing 747-400 (744) Seats: 58 Business 270 Economy 36 Premium Economy. "Why the same complaints not extended here on this forum". Bob I presume spoken by one who was on the delivery flight! ANA All Nippon Airways. 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