The screw on the back of the control board is a Torx T-15 size. combustion chamber. * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water [], [] How turn water main cutoff valve , In event main water valve fails, final backstop operate shut water house: main water valve street.. How to Turn Off Your Water Using the Main Cutoff Valve on 411 plumb: &p valve water heater leaking, Learn determine &p valve water heater leaking fix leaking &p valve.. 411 Plumb: The T&P Valve On My Water Heater Is LeakingResetting #$%@!! I would like to add my experience with this hoping it may shed some light. Although, it wouldnt hurt to turn the gas off at the water heater line by twisting the valve into the horizontal position. The final straw while talking to Rheem tech support the main burner lit for 1 second, went out, and relit 2 seconds later. Good info here, had 4 flashes, remove white valve cover after lighting pilot, place a jumper wire across two posts that were right side top , pilot quit, waited, relit pilot, turn gas control to low, main burner lit. [] research briefly mention entertaining ? I also flushed the tank out twice by turning the supply on with the drain open. Of Course I am here because I got a call from my mother in-law that they had no hot water on the their brand new Water Heater. Manual 34-00013EF-06. Could sediment do this? Pre-owned. Now the white one does NOT clear, in my experience, by the posted this will clear the 4-blips of death error. I am digging out the old board I have positioned for disposal. About this product. $211.94. Let people know on FB and other places that these tanks are equipped with a flawed Gas Control Valve. Is there a replacement gas valve that people have had success with? OMG!! Slide the power switch on This happened again a day or 2 later and again, after a short while, the status led reverted back from the 5-flash red to the 1-flash blue. Didnt work first time but tried it again and let board set for 10 minutes unplugged before relighting pilot. Worked like a charm with an old AA battery & a couple of bread ties, thanks for for sharing the knowledge! Those two must also be connected which ever method is selected to correct the problem. I have always had it at one above on A. Does the brains look at the voltage from thermopile to check for over heating or underheating? This worked for me, and saved me some money and headaches. I shorted every connection on the board to the only connection marked GND rather than wait the hour. Did you call Honeywell directly? I will never by anything that has anything Honeywell on it again. After re-installing the burner and reattaching all the wires, it started up with the 7 blinks & eventually went to normal 1 blink. Randy- you da man. Plan the installation as outlined below DONT BUY THEM. I cant think of how many brands of water heaters use the same honeywell gas valve. Thank you for the excellent instructions, they worked on the first try. I called Whirlpool again, they agreed to ship a new replacement for $30 shipment again! I turned the knob to the on position and the burner kicked on. After going through this ordeal, I had the pretty much the same experience as ColdShowerMan. Rotate the knob to 9 oclock to see if it will fire up on its own. I have not found a procedure to un-fault a Honeywell Electronic gas controller on any web site, so I think I am the only one to do this. Then plugged them in and lit pilot. Thank you all for helping out the FIY. Miller Air Core Oil and Gas Harness. I did the same thing but it immediately returned to four flashes. Product Support. Remove the ivory-colored plastic front of the gas valve from the back of the unit. Have fun boys! okay at this point with circuit boardhave no clue..please step by step for dummies pleasecannot remove it from whitish housing.appears a screw of some sort and also something that looks like glass attaching to it? I initially did unplug everything and flushed the tank there was some residue and sediment not a ton but apparently enough to confound the sensor. I replaced my gas valve and only had to pay the shipping and smell bad for two days. Whirlpool did not improve their product going to this control valve thermostat. i was still under warranty so the valve was free less $30 overnight shipping. No battery, no removing of circuit board, just a short jumper wire. NEVER TO BE PURCHASED AGAIN. Thanks for the site.. Guys, this is a great post Thanks I FIXED IT but, make it EASY FOR DUMMIES after spending hours reading this I FOUND the EASIEST WAY to fix the 4 blink issue Just lit the pilot take out the plastic cover with the pilot on, do not disconnect any cords, use aflat-bladed screwdriver. just short (touch) the top 2 left pins( there is a set of 4 pins together use the 2 on the left) and the led light will go off and the pilot will shut off too, put the plastic cover back to the unit and DONE!! I dis-assembled the cover and the circuit board, then tested the actual gas valve by itself using a AA battery and jumper wires (mentioned elsewhere above earlier) ( negative (-) to the bottom of V and positive to left upper pin of V. So I got no click (but supposed to get a click). Thank you Pioneers, Thank you Tyler. you will get a 7 flash error. Right, my tank is just over 2 years old the number of posts here, Honeywell would do well to consider a recall and redesign. Rheem gets my congrats for the great support and fast shipping. I am extremely grateful for this information! controller). When I screw the gas adapter, just half way in the screw, the housing cracked. My control has an additional wire plugged into the bottom of the controller (Im not certain what it does). The main burner would go out without being up to temp (it may of been shutting off on the high limit ?) ~ diy-home-projects.vwx.info. Miller MightyLite Leading Edge Self-Retracting Lifelines. Preferably one that doesnt use that stupid Honeywell valve. I had a power outage at my house and coincidentally (?) day installed it i had bad problems to lite, i called Co. they asked if a professional installed it, i told tech ive installed over 15 water heaters & never had this type of trouble, he kind of said that since im not a pro-with licence thats why its not lighting, i told him i didnt like this valve sytem & all 15 water with the old school red dial out lasted the 9 yr some worked till 12 years & why would i ever give $400 to install something i could do & i do know what Im doing just that this system not working at all, i got it 3 years & I got one of the lucky ones, the (2nd one)was built 07/20/2015 i got a call Fri 29th,16 my tenant said water heater stopped working & i had showed him how tom lite it in case im not around & it turns off, he tried many times, depress 1 1/2, 2 min, 3 min & nothing, i got a chance to look into it & i had assumed E-Z fix 5 min ill have it & running, wrong spent hour doing everything instructions had, i asked my tennat at what temp he had it on, he said a lil past the letyter (A) when i installed it i had told him never pass (A) i remember a friend who owns several homes (7) & he told me many nitemare stories of the Honeywell Valve status lite (poop)he was dealing with 7 faulty valves had to pay hotel 3-5 days while they ship parts, even then the water heater co. diagnosed problem wrong, he said a couple times they told him it was the thermopile that was causing pilot lite not to stay on, he waited for part, ordered the Valve although it had warranty but it didnt cover the wasted time, days & hotel for his tenants, but he some how found on his own that setting those types pass the letter (A) the water heater will over heat, thats whats going on with me, i checked everything spark good, pilot lights well but doesnt stay on & the status lite doesnt come on at all, its like its dead, so i called Co. tech guy told me oh thats an E-Z one & no brainner its your thermopile well let me tell my tenants 4 adults 3 teenagers of how E-Z theyll have it for 4 days without hot water you certified (DA=dumb ass)i still didnt feel good about that, i called my friend & my friend said ill bet you a $100 its going to be the thermo pile, call m back & have them send you new Valve & get on YouTube & sites to get help, these sites are extremely helpful, you save money, time, days waiting for part & most likely youll get wrong diagnosed, so Im gearing up & ready to get hot water for my tenants, its a rotten dirty shame that so many people have gotten ripped off by honeywell & no law suits for intentionally selling theyre valves to the water heater makers they too are at fault, at least those of us that can tinker with things are able to FIY i feel for the people who have get a licence person to install, then several months later have the valve burn out, call Co. then pro to install wrong part, wait more days for correct one ? At least it works again and Ill have the replacement ready if it ever fails again. Anyhow, the next day I got the part. Installed it today. So is there now way to reset the white light model? Ive been reading the above posts with great interest. So far, this one has continued to work for a while I can not tell yet if they have actually fixed them though. It is . They dont want to send any more parts until I pay someone to come look at it. How long does the pilot need to be held on for the thermopile to get to operational mode. Its not more than 3yrs old. Well, hows your repair going? Water Heater Gas Valve Replaces Honeywell Resideo WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 Furnace Heater Gas Valve Shut-off Slow Fast Opening Pilot Spark Hot Surface Ignition Repair Part . I was ready to take the circuit board into work and try to reprogram it through what appears to be a serial port (TX RX pins). Rheem next day shipped me a new Honeywell control valve. Took a wire and touched the two pins where the thermo plugs in. YOU are a SUPER GENIUS! The Temperature probe is a different design. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. The water heater turns on and hubby and I live happily ever after. David Boone-you are a godsend. It was enough hot for a fairly comfortable shower actually. The first time I paid Sears their blood money. If peoples replacement valves with the white indicator lights dont fail about the same rate as the old ones, maybe Honeywell has resolved the issue. I now have no indicator lights at all and when I try to relight the pilot it does not appear that the gas valve is opening for pilot flow at all. Pull the three wire connector off the circuit board by pulling it straight out. Picture:here, 4. I must say the internet is a life saver for problems like these. Two days ago, the replacement unit also died. Im assuming that the old board just completely died. If youre under warranty this is easy though theyll probably charge you for shipping, and extra if you want it fast. Worked like a charm! I dont know, but I do know you need to get the sediment out of there in any case, so you might as well try it. Thank you for you detailed instructions. On the board? Bought my Whirlpool at Lowes. Land lord got a hot water heater last week because my old one was leaking. Bioluminescent Reindeer and the Value of Diversity. We have a Whirlpool from Lowes. I fitted the WH with a cheap garden hose when I installed it last year and ran the hose permanently to outdoors for convenience. It was very difficult to flush out and I ended removing it by use of a shop-vac and small hose modified to get through the valve hole. The fault should stay cleared. You can open up both the old and replacement valve, and just swap the fronts of the valves, containing the recalcitrant circuit board, leaving the back part that connects to the gas pipes in place. The new valve seemed to act the same way except without the main burner lite, out , and relite. Ive also decided that, every year, Im going to file a warranty claim on this piece of crap valve/circuit board setup. I just wrapped a twist tie around the 2 posts on the right & replaced the cover to restart the pilot then removed it when all was well & done. Glad I found this post. I cleaned burner and vents as well. If that didnt work, or if you already have the new valve and prefer the slightly simpler approach, proceed as follows. ( P.S. I suspect it is modified by Honeywell to be less sensitive to the issue because of complaints. Includes an integrated NTC temperature sensor. There is no need to completely remove the board from the plastic control valve cover. Instead of a red flashing light it has a White flashing light. DB.THANK YOU kind sir for sharing this! Plus the cost of the above repairs. Add Sears to Lowes of where not to buy a product. So while they said just use the sealant through out, I actually used a combination of both. Speaker wire. Thank you Tyler for starting this thread. (Held the pilot open manually for 10 minutes. Thanks for the info. Please do this at your own risk. We shall see how long this lasts. The pins have very thin (about 28-30 gauge) wires that are going to electromagnetic solenoid that has a metal armature that covers a hole. I didnt think it would work, live and learn. Lessons learned eh? Took the board out and just touched everything with the cross wire and let it sit. Last December, I was forced to replace the valve after I got the four flashes. Let the pilot without the chip wires plugged in then turned it off. I am convinced there is a design problem with this product and this item should be recalled. Four flashes only happens if the water overheated different problem. I followed the last paragraph instructions (what i did take off the cover.) and everything seems to be in working order again with one caveat: when I reattached the front cover with the 3-wire connector unplugged and lit the pilot, I got a 5-flash error (indicating that there was a sensor failure) rather than the 7-flash error. No, No, No! After the pilot heats the thermopile, and the LED blinks, I released the Red knob but the pilot would not stay on. This Honeywell gas control has been intermittent every few months, but i was always able to restart until this week. God Bless you anyway! On my particular Honeywell gas valve, model WV8840B1109, the error codes indicate the following: FLASHES STATUS 0 Control Off/Pilot Out 1 Normal Operation 2 Thermopile Voltage Low 4 High Temperature Shutdown 5 Temperature Sensor Failure 7 Gas Control or Valve Failure 8 Flame Sensor Error Since waaaay too many folks have experienced this failure, and since it seems to be electronics related, and since Honeywell is sending out replacements willy nilly and asking for return of the defective valves, I suggest that the true culprit may be that some bonehead just programmed the software at too low a critical temperature. 2. Look at where the Valve body pins connect to the circuit board. Because, when they shop at Lowes (and other DIY stores), people dont always, every time, ask them, You carry repair parts for this, right? If they do fail, at least now, thanks to all your advice, Ill at least have a workaround to use while I fight with them for another replacement. All working fine now. I have a newer version. It will die eventually and it would be nice to have the gas valve ready to go. Youre freaking awesome! Also, is the setpoint continuously variable as the dial is turned, or are the labeled settings stepped and all there are? Other suggestions? Two months later I drained out about 5-8 gallons, saw minimal sediment. With products ranging from thermostats to air purifiers, alarms and awareness to water management systems, even energy management opportunities, Resideo goes beyond installation to integration of holistic, whole-home solutions. Think I am out of my warrantee point but I will call and see if I can get a freebee. Wednesday morning earlylooked on porch for another package I was expecting and found the new control valve. Wish Id had it before I Paid the 30.00 shipping for the new board. The Jaccuzi is available at Lowes. Rebooted the pilot and set to just below HOT. On my initial contact with their tech support, they asked that I verify the gas pressure coming into the heater ( spec range is 5.5 10.5 inches water column). It will not attempt to clear its own fault after it faults. I completely drained the tank and had a little sediment, not much since I have a whole house filter on the incoming supply. That was their only solution. Holy Shite.Im at the end of my gas heater nightmare with one thing left to doreplace the whole valve and im back and runningwas researching whether to do it myself, then ran into this article about the dreaded four flashesalready had the valve, and presto, in 10 minutes I had a working water heaterI love the Internetand Tyler, you are my new hero. If it does, the fault should clear in a few seconds. This time they are sending me a new gas valve for free overnight. My question is.do I flush out the tank 1st before I do anything else.I have no idea on make and modelits raining here and I cant check on it since its on the outside of my homeI want to see if I can fix it myself before I need to pay or just all out replace it The red one, I found, CAN be reset using above methods. -thanks. Problem solved. The battery trick worked for me. and see what the thermostat looks like). She then told me that she would have to transfer me to someone else to finish up because my unit has the power exhaust flap and that was a different group. Sears is charging $181.64. Cal. The question now is for how long? Sediment in the bottom of a tank reduces efficient heat transfer from the heat source (gas or electric) to the water by putting a layer of less conductive minerals between the two. Off the cover. to be held on for the new control valve cover )., no removing of circuit board this one has continued to work for a i... 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