What is their strongest argument? And, of course, being half white, he is only entitled to half the reparation payment. I suspect that whether records could prove it or not, its overwhelmingly likely to be true, especially since high-status individuals tend to make a bigger contribution to the gene pool. David Olusoga's Family David Olusoga, age 49 was born to a Nigerian father and a British mother. All in all your typical West African is far more likely to have ancestral connections to the slave trade than your typical Brit. Sooner or later, we whites are going to have to take a stand, and say we aint taking this any more. This is nothing to do with slavery or as with black lives matter, blacks being shot, and everything to do with a shakedown of the white man. Video, 1894 shipwreck confirms tale of treacherous lifeboat, BBC Radio 3 - Drama on 3: The Meaning of Zong, BBC Bitesize: The Zong 1781-1783 - The triangular trade, during a debate on Black History and Cultural Diversity in the Curriculum, Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Explosive found in check-in luggage at US airport, Fungus case forces Jack Daniels to halt construction, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine, Fire knocks out half of Argentina's power grid, Havana Syndrome unlikely to have hostile cause - US, Starbucks illegally fired workers over union - judge. But that ignores how the demand of outsiders led inevitably to far more supply being provided. Not many remember anything about segregation either. But those were in those long-lost days when democrats and republicans could talk to each other and agree to disagree while both leaving the conversation a little the wiser.. Olusoga was born in Lagos to a White mother and a Nigerian father - who, I hate to say nautrally, did a runner. Though I dont know where wed get $12 trillion in Confederate currency. The race obsessed Department of Education goes to considerable lengths to distinguish Caribbeans and West Africans. The argument isnt whether historical slavery was right or wrong or who should accept responsibility for it. It was an apt university to experiment with such developments, since Lord Scarman, who reported on the Brixton riots of 1981, was its chancellor. Britain should be proud of helping to stop (African to America) slavery, like the Republican Party and unlike the Democrats. In 1860, cotton goods accounted for 40 per cent of all British exports. This history of the black presence in . Fought to STOP southern independence. But that is not the argument I am making. Prof David Olusoga has presented numerous documentaries including A House Through Time and Black and Black and British: A Forgotten History, Olaudah Equiano played a role in Britain's abolishment of slavery, Performer Giles Terera has written a play featuring Equiano, Prof Olusoga said when it was published, people did not believe the book was by an African as it was deemed so well written, Bernardine Evaristo (second left) has launched a series called Black Britain: Writing Back which features novels by black British authors that have been overlooked, Should black history be taught all year round? Presumably there were normal times when food was cheap that you fed your workers and didnt seek to replace them in the way Olusoga means. But slaves were more valuable, so the British fought the Spanish for a share in the trade and eventually came to dominate it. Its very noticable how nobodys mentioning that the Spanish Empire were doing this for several centuries before the British got involved. "They were barely known even to historians. Although the bottom line is that no Black person remembers slavery. Sure. But as someone who is damaged by slavery I have lived in racially mixed communities and I am happy to see Obama and Kamala pay up. After all, adult males were all but worthless and demand for women might have been enough to drive the trade anyway. Nineteen eighty-four was a transformative year for David Olusoga. Ive always agreed that the Africans should pay reparations to the rest of us for dumping all those people they wanted to get rid of on us. David Olusoga I think a case could be made. Their demands should simply be refused. Now Im trying to imagine just what the strongest case for reparations might be, but even in this thought experiment its hard to see what the eligibility criteria for receiving payment should be, what sum should be due, how much proof is required of eligibility not everyone will have a good set of family records etc. They did not pay for them and were going to kill a lot of them anyway. And this of course neatly addresses MBEs arguments. The UK, Norway, Benelux, Spain, Malta and Switzerland are, I believe, the only western European countries to set it at 16. The New Statesmans weekly environment email on the politics, business and culture of the climate and nature crises - in your inbox every Thursday. Looking at what happened in Haiti or Jamaica or chunks of Latin America, I dont find either well, could have been much worse or what do you expect, Early Modern West Europeans, how could they have known better? to be particularly convincing responses. Mans a loon. Olusoga is just getting even because he was attacked by the right when he was a teenager. As Black British History Month draws to a close, TV historian Prof David Olusoga looks at the impact it's had - and how young people are taking it on. In the USA? Prof Darity and Ms Mullen outline that to eliminate the existing Black-White wealth gap an allocation of between $10 trillion and $12 trillion, or about $800,000 per black household, should be paid. Tim may be wrong about stuff, but ..that, ultimately, makes up for his beating squirrels to death for a hobby, Tim Worstall a horrid man who is anti-minimum wage among other repugnant things Socialist News. Sloane witnessed and later became part of a system ruled by terror. Deliberately shipping that many people that far in order to participate in a newly-created society whose economic system was designed, pretty much from the ground up, around slave labour? Shouldnt Olusoga be writing in Ubangi bantu-language? Theres a flaw in arguments of the form frankly you should be glad I murdered your sister, since had I not done so, its quite possible though we cannot be sure that someone else would have tortured her then murdered her, which is even worse, so whos the real criminal? Which is that I still murdered your sister. They all get it from White people inciting violence. There is an alternative argument that it is their ancestors who were wronged hence deserve compensation and as descendants theyre entitled to an inherited share (so their portion depends on how many slaves at what position in the family tree) plus interest, regardless of how well theyre doing now. So is Richard Murphy. Was never entirely sure which bits were believed and which bits were just a fun bit of intellectual muscle-flexing couldnt all have been intended seriously since so many posts contradicted each other. @ Boganboy There is no reason to single White people out for unique levels of criticism. David Olusoga meets Janice Haber and her family, the descendents of Jewish . True that unlike certain other examples of slavery, you werent likely to be killed as part of a religious sacrifice or as part of your owners funeral. Arguably wrong in a crimes against humanity way (similar language of natural justice and universal morality indeed being used by the abolitionists and the UK itself when it tried to enforce a ban on the trade) that made it inherently illegal even when governments tried to put it on a legal footing. Olusoga patterns his narrative after Fryers, starting with the North African presence in Roman Britain. Different people can argue the toss from different viewpoints and perspectives but in many ways their arguments pass each other like ships in the night, because they havent all got nobodys got an absolute frame of reference to judge things with respect to. Re putting the argument for paedophilia they actually gave Gide the Nobel prize for literature didnt they? Should black history be taught all year round? He is the undisputed King of the Internet Pedants and Lord of the Unnecessary Snark. ), Who is fundamentally right about reparations for slavery? Its extraordinary success rested upon the foundation of sympathy laid down during the previous 70 years of abolitionist activity in Britain. Although I would expect the Germans, and perhaps even the Japanese, to be happy they lost the war. Or they may discover how little black lives do matter. This is a moral argument. MBE, do not entertain these people, not for one second. There is no reason to think one system was more or less brutal than the other. I generally reckon cant blame me, my distant relative was on your side arguments are pretty weak since relying on a doctrine of virtues of the fathers risks implicitly accepting sins of the fathers. First launched in London in 1987, it aims to highlight and celebrate what black people have achieved in Britain throughout history. Their cities, as well as their comfort, will rapidly decay. Again, not that these market forces absolve the sellers of a moral responsibility, but there is an argument occasionally deployed that slaves would have been slaves anyway. So there were times when food was expensive, we can call those shortages or famines. But maybe they did not. My argument is that Africans were probably happily killing each other for women before the West turned up. White people are unique in ending slavery across the world*. I have that estimate saved and ready to be critiqued as part of a larger project. In the case of slavery the answer is clear. His exposure to Nigerian culture seems quite limited. Black and British: A Forgotten History Olusogas stated purpose is to argue that black British history is not about migration and settlement, whether of black servants in the 18th century or black workers in the Windrush era. It is a form of self-loathing. TV presenter David Olusoga has told the Edinburgh TV Festival his career had sometimes left him feeling "crushed, isolated," and "disempowered". Instead he has become a campaigner working to discredit Britain, the country that has educated him, promoted him and brought him fame and acceptance. The New Statesmans global affairs newsletter, every Monday and Friday. Then a young teenager, he was driven out of his council home, together with his grandmother, mother, two sisters and younger brother, by a sustained campaign of nightly stoning of their windows. He previously worked at JP Morgan for 18 years in a number of senior roles and was . That star stuff wont last. not at all to disparage your ancestors GC. at scales that were unusual in the long and varied history of slavery, and levels of brutality that stood out too.. What has Nigeria ever done for him? Its an interesting exercise to consider, given we live within such a system, how or whether that contradiction can be settled. . "The way history is viewed is changing. They arent going to concede anything. TV historian David Olusoga claims it is "palpable nonsense" to say that removing controversial statues "somehow impoverishes history". No one has said we should not consider someone elses viewpoint. He is a Cultural Marxist trying to destroy the West. It was far too real to her. One of the reasons why the American and Caribbean experiences were very different. Cotton was a completely different slave economy. His current research focuses on stress, burnout, and wellbeing in sports, with a particular interest in high-performance environments and elite coaching. And they will go looking for parts of the past that aren't on the curriculum, and they evidently do. Now they do. BurningEars August 30, 2020 at 3:07 pm Theres a flaw in arguments of the form frankly you should be glad I murdered your sister. And the third, fourth, fifth, and so on. In dealing with the black contribution to the First World War, for example, he cites popular gratitude and admiration for black Britons among them Walter Tull, who fought on the Western Front. Good point, I wonder how he squares the obviously comfortable living he has writing, opining and broadcasting about slavery with his principles. Supported by African authors of slave narratives such as Olaudah Equiano and Ottabah Cugoano, they held meetings all over the country, attracting huge crowds. Then dont discuss it. and while the responsible state still exists, Theres a fundamental weakness with all theories of universal law or justice, which is that across time and space, the human conception of what is right and just seems to be extremely varied and rarely (to modern Western eyes) pleasant.. It isnt going to happen anyway. I was uncomfortable using it. They organised a boycott of sugar, produced more petitions and hosted meetings. Away from the creative arts, the Equiano Project aims to promote race equality and he was mentioned in Parliament during a debate on Black History and Cultural Diversity in the Curriculum. And so many hundreds of thousands of British workers were directly dependent on slavery (from sailors to those who built, rigged and repaired ships) that it was easy to turn a blind eye to the inhumanity. many African tribes kept slaves. Hundreds of White women raped every day. The strongest argument I can see for reparations is not that white people bear some kind of ancestral blame. That was a bad experience but he should know that you cannot judge a whole country by what happened when he was young. Why are these characterizations needed? The Benin Dialogue Group announced it had brokered an agreement that will see "some of the most iconic" of the bronzes returned to Benin City, Nigeria, where they will be housed in the soon-to-be-built Benin Royal Museum. One in which enslaved people suffered and even died from malnutrition, as the economics of the slave trade meant that it was cheaper, at times, to starve people and then replace them than it was to provide them with food. Britain was happy to force the Bevan Boys down coal mines. If someone from Portugal or France wants to explain why their country has done a better job of getting the balance right, Im open to hearing it. They are stupid false for America. A newsletter showcasing the finest writing from the ideas section, covering political ideas, philosophy, criticism and intellectual history - sent every Wednesday. Like I said, as a mental exercise, if I do my best good faith effort to imagine an argument for reparations, I reckon it would concern harms committed by the state (which unlike the slave traders and owners, is still about today) and an argument that it breached some alleged fundamental/universal doctrine of law so that even the states efforts to put the slave industry on a legal footing were null and void. But you need a different approach if you dont think great-grandkids of the Confederacy are still fair game.) Video, 00:02:30Should black history be taught all year round? 5 quotes from David Olusoga: 'On a peninsula protruding into one of the great highways of the Atlantic slave trade, a few hundred refugees from British slavery in North America were attempting to recreate the social structures of Northern Europe in the Middle Ages.', 'Time and again events and phenomena that we think we know and understand contain within them lost or camouflaged connections to . Indeed, third-century York may have been more ethnically and racially diverse than present-day York. Rapidly promoted to sergeant, then second lieutenant, he led white British troops into action and died in 1918, having been mentioned in despatches and recommended for the Military Cross. Would, say, Huguenot-descended South Africans suing France over the 1572 St. Bartholomews Day massacre, or Cornish people suing HMG for the suppression of the 1497 Rebellion, deserve compensation? It was, I believe, the first book I ever bought for myself with my own money. 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I hadnt gotten far when she stopped me cold, pointing out that her best friend, a 15 year old girl knitting beside a window in her house, was machine gunned by an American P-51 pilot. TV historian David Olusoga claims it is "palpable nonsense" to say that removing controversial statues "somehow impoverishes history". One sporting event that has captured your imagination I was fortunate enough to get tickets to see some of the basketball at the London 2012 Olympics, so my brother and I went to watch the GB vs. Spain game. It died out with the Romans leaving, and its non-legality repeatedly reaffirmed from the reign of the early Normans onwards.. MyBurningEars August 30, 2020 at 3:31 pm Deliberately shipping that many people that far in order to participate in a newly-created society whose economic system was designed, pretty much from the ground up, around slave labour?, True that unlike certain other examples of slavery, you werent likely to be killed as part of a religious sacrifice or as part of your owners funeral., But there have been other societies with slavery where slaves had more autonomy and a greater chance of buying their freedom.. Giles Terera, the Olivier award-winning British performer who starred in the popular theatre production Hamilton, has recently staged a play called the Meaning of Zong about the massacre of 132 enslaved Africans aboard the slave ship Zong in 1781 and the impact it had on Equiano. We could just cut to the chase, and impose a reparations tax on anyone who is descended from from anyone who did something, er, wrong. Thats fine, BraveFart. "Equiano is the most important voice that we have from the British experience of slavery and the slave trade," he said. I cant see this one surviving people being expected to dig into their pockets for a few trillion. Davids all done. That was at the least unusual, particularly from a West European perspective bearing in mind the practice of slavery had pretty much fizzled out there. It is about the centuries-long engagement with Africa, a consequence of which is the black presence in Britain. Peter Pan & Wendy is a live-action reimagining of the J.M . And so, equipped with the fruits of Islamic learning (new navigational instruments, books on astronomy and trigonometry), European explorers set sail for Africa to relieve the natives of their gold. We pretend we do not like slavery but actually we do not like slave traders. Get back to us when your sin/privilege is expunged. And the transatlantic slave trade? This ignorant fellow should study historical facts, rather than believing and repeating lies and half-truths. Black and British: A Forgotten History addresses one of the greatest silences in British historiography. The arguments do you want to get shaken down for several trillion?. Such sources give his writing freshness, originality and compassion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr_Gide, Less flippantly, Western countries are not of one mind when it comes to the age of consent sex with a 14 year-old is legal in some countries, criminal in others (yes yes, paedophilia versus ephebophilia etc, you got me). Dont know if I would rule it out entirely because the demographics are different but it might need a change in the voting dynamics. Then, in October, came a breakthrough. Both groups today, especially the former, could reasonably claim historic persecution has reduced their present income and wealth. The book accompanying. Thats why we get it. Those who grew rich on slavery and the slave trade were not neutral and no achievement or act of philanthropy justifies airbrushing their involvement from history. Would probably have taken your suggestion as a challenge. Perhaps Im a bit more culturally relativist these days, but just read it again, still absolutely awful. I do not see what is different between a plantation in Africa and a plantation in Virginia. If more African-Americans started to vote Republican and the Democrats felt they needed something radical to boost their offer, and had enough support from liberal whites and other groups to risk further losses among blue-collar whites, for example. David Olusoga, 49, is a television presenter and historian. By a Senegalese author: The veiled genocide = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxc5ENT8ajg, MyBurningEars August 30, 2020 at 11:52 am Slavery within West African societies being different again I dont think the places with very high rates of local slavery were anything like the sugar plantations. BBC Radio 3 - Drama on 3, The Meaning of Zong, Spacious open-plan family home in Muswell Hill, Five Cineworlds across south London still at risk of permanent closure, Residents who have 'suffered for years' to be asked if they want blocks knocked down, Dazzling Thamesmead light festival returns with performances, films and flash mob, Charlton murderer claims prison guards broke his arm and sues for 20k, Children and young people with eating disorders face treatment postcode lottery, Angry protests erupt over Greek rail disaster, How fake copyright complaints are muzzling journalists, 1894 shipwreck confirms tale of treacherous lifeboat. Olusoga, who is half-Nigerian, traces this focus to his mother telling him when he was a child that Nigerian soldiers served in World War II. He was Chairman of Moneysupermarket Group from 2014 to 2019 and Senior Independent Director of Close Brothers Group plc from 2006 to 2014 and is a Past President of the Chartered Management Institute. Prof Olusoga says statues, such as those of slave traders . If you had spare cash or could borrow, investment in slavery was a sure winner, never mind slave rebellions or hurricanes that destroyed cane fields. In 1861, the Economist stated that nearly four million people in Britain depended directly and indirectly on the cotton industry; a fifth of the entire population. Well whats the point of pretending it doesnt also induce moral disgust in me, just in case someone mistakes it for guilt, or an admission of liability? He also studied at the University of Liverpool and so benefits from slavery as much as anyone else. I dont think the traders can be given a pass on this front either., Just means they werent alone in being in the wrong.. It's possibly a deeper change than some people realise because I don't think what we're living through is a series of political events; I think we're living through a generational shift," he says. I am happy with Olusogo paying reparations to himself. You may concede a point here, a point there. Ironically, one of the sources we can turn to in order to learn more is his own accounts of late 17th-century Jamaica. And yet anti-black race riots broke out in 1948 in Liverpool and in 1958 in Nottingham and Londons Notting Hill. Then the second. Cheap ass presentism. What would happen to that money, who knows, but as its (or was) your money, thats between you and your grifter of choice. . He updates Fryer, citing radioisotope analysis of skeletons and craniometrics, which support written documentation of Aurelian Moors guarding Hadrians Wall and settling in places such as Yorkshire. Its a shame Very often shaped by the political, technological and economic forces of the times if the Western way of life had remained utterly dependent on Roman-style slavery, Im not sure wed ever have abolished it even amongst our own inhabitants. Not to say it was nice.. While I dont think they persuaded anyone, they did shift perspectives a bit. The people in Portland, Seattle and Kenosha are too decadent to fight back. And any reparations should be paid 50% by the African states for the areas which sold the slaves and pocketed the proceeds. It seems absurd to me that anyone should be concerned about what happened 200 or 500 years ago. Peter Olusoga. We do not know for sure. A covering letter would be a courtesy but probably not a necessity. Quite possibly slave-raiding Gaels before that. Definitely didnt die out with the Romans. If the alternative was that they were killed? Nineteen eighty-four affected him in another way: the publication of Peter Fryers groundbreaking Staying Power: The History of Black People in Britain introduced him to the scholarship needed to understand his position in Britain. I assume these were usually killed before Europeans turned up and bought them. As for the future, the University of Manchester professor says younger generations give him hope. He writes to inflame white guilt, so that you will ACCEPT destruction of your culture. (Im just presenting the case here in reality there are obviously some big questions about the logic of Nuremberg etc, just as there are questions about how judges in Common Law occasionally summon up things as if they had always and forever been a part of the Law, albeit previously unrecorded, rather than something the judge just made up.). It could not have happened at all unless African traders and kings had offered slaves to the Europeans. Read about our approach to external linking. In that moment, his interest in history overlapped. The Westman Islands of Iceland have an interesting history in terms of European slavery a major rebellion of presumably mostly Irish (Westmen) slaves was put down there in the typically brutal Scandinavian manner, hence the name, but in the 1600s the local inhabitants were themselves enslaved by Barbary pirates and taken to Algiers, from where a few were ransomed back and one wrote about the experience. Would the good professor really be so different if genealogical records could prove he had African ancestors who owned African slaves? There is no reason to single White people out for unique levels of criticism. In the end, wholl be proven right about the matter practically, in terms of what the outcome is and what the first drafts of history say? Black history: Should it be part of the wider curriculum? Less flippantly, Western countries are not of one mind when it comes to the age of consent sex with a 14 year-old is legal in some countries, criminal in others (yes yes, paedophilia versus ephebophilia etc, you got me).. You can pay all the reparation for historical slavery related wrongs, real or imaginary, you want. By this logic, we ought to sue the African American community. It's all down to people in their 20s, those at school and in their teens, who have a relationship with history which, says Prof Olusoga, is profoundly different from that of their parents and grandparents. Viking Dublin was a major slave-trading centre (English, Irish, Scots, anyone else they could get their hands on). I have done nothing. It was such a brilliantly organised programme of mass protest that slavery was declared abolished in 1833: 46,000 slave owners were given 20m in compensation (17bn in todays money), the largest payout in British history and 40 per cent of all government spending that year. Women, denied a meaningful role in politics, formed their own organisations, writing tracts, pamphlets and poems, gathering signatures for petitions and fundraising: At certain times and in certain places they were the engine room of the movement.. Not to say it was nice. BLM is after political or financial advantages because of slavery. The point about slave descendants in Georgia being better off than descendants of slave sellers from West Africa is reasonably strong (though look back in everyones ancestry and youre likely to find, far back enough, a mix of slaves, owners and probably traders too). And even if you personally disagree with it, what would be the strongest argument for some form of legal settlement? 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